It’s Cultural and Traditional to Eat Animals

It’s Cultural and Traditional to Eat Animals


We’ve been eating animals for hundreds of years. Now, that statement might well be correct. And in fact, consuming animal products may well be ingrained in our culture and our tradition, but does that make it morally justifiable to kill and eat an animal? Now, I think the best place to start with this argument is to apply that logic to a human situation. Now, female genital mutilation is undoubtedly a cultural practice, but by no means does that make it moral. In fact, in some cultures, it’s acceptable to treat a woman as less than a man. But would you consider that to be moral just because its traditional, or just because it’s cultural? Now, let’s apply that logic to another situation where it’s non-human animals having pain, suffering, and fear inflicted upon them. The Yulin dog meat festival and the Boknal dog meat festival are both annual events where tens of thousands of dogs and cats are butchered, killed, and eaten. Is it moral, therefore, to kill a dog and a cat because these festivals are part of the culture and tradition of those communities? And also, what about in Taiji in Japan where every year they slaughter dolphins? Or in the Faroe Islands, where every year they slaughter Pilot Whales? But if it’s not morally justifiable to kill a whale, a dolphin, a dog, and a cat even though doing so forms part of the community’s culture, how can it be moral for us to kill a cow, a pig, a chicken, a sheep, a fish, or any animal that we kill, and excuse it by saying it’s a part of our culture, a part of our tradition? The reality is, tradition and culture cements us in our past transgressions. The reason we have progressed as a society is because we’d looked at the actions that we were making, and we questioned whether or not they were moral and acceptable. The consumption of animal products, the exploitation of animals in general is wrong and immoral. And just because we have done these things for a long time, just because it forms part of our culture, and part of our tradition, does not make it morally justifiable. We have to look at the actions that we are making today collectively as a society but also as individuals, and question whether or not we can morally justify it. Does culture justify an action? Is female genital mutilation morally acceptable just because it’s cultural? Is killing a dog morally acceptable just because it’s traditional? If you answered no those questions, then you can’t possibly excuse raising and killing animals here in England or in the West with the excuse of tradition and culture. Because by your own logic, it doesn’t morally justify something just because we’ve done it for a long time.

Author: Kennedi Daugherty

85 thoughts on “It’s Cultural and Traditional to Eat Animals

  1. My partner said "humans have been eating animals for thousands of years…" The way he said it was "don't dare tell me what to do". He'd just been talking about how (awful) it was that a work colleague told him he shoots birds out his window for a laugh and that he kills a lot of them! I had ask him "then, do you think it's ok to kill other animals for pleasure, for example, to satisfy one's taste buds?" It is so upsetting that he can't join the dots…only my two children have, I am SO proud of them.

  2. This videos should be translated into other languages to reach as many people as possible. They are very useful and informative.

  3. This graphic shows the number of land and sea animals killed for the average American's diet during their lifetime – http://www.greensmoothieparty.com/the-moral-animal.html – sadly, part of our culture, but not for long – the times they are a changin'

  4. Religion and Culture dont always bring out the best in ppl , truth love and facts does . We need too be more responsible for the choices we make each day, and how it effects everything around us. When we can see the bigger picture everything are all connected . It is said " together we aspire but divided we fall". As vegans compaassion is never lost nor does team work. Animal rigths mush be address fully to bring back the natural balance to nature once more… tnks again ed love you always peace and wisdom kp blessed 😉💕💕💕💕.

  5. In the end its CULTURE VS CULTURE there are many beliefs like when tower of BABYLON was formed why should one culture be higher than another . JESUS did come as example to all cultures

  6. You've inspired me to get into activism, not sure where to start, but I'll definitely be doing something this year. Watching your videos to get the answers to back up my arguments/debates.

  7. How would you go about raising activism with your family. My parents said to me today “I like the taste and if we didn’t eat animals they’d go extinct”. I used your usual answers but honestly how to you get past that barrier people put up? Especially if they’re your family?

  8. I'm going to participate in a cube of truth next week, these videos are such a great help! Can't wait to have my first conversation with a stranger about this! ❤️
    Thank you thank you thank yooou 👌🌿

  9. I think there should be a way to make it painless but even if I don’t eat meat my animals will have to until we can find a way to make vegan food to sustain our pets and animals in sanctuarys and zoos we will need slather houses to get food to feed these animals

  10. So many excellent, concise points that are easy to remember. Thank you for providing both human and non-human examples. It's very helpful!!

  11. An excuse I've heard is that people would loose their jobs and it is part of our society, like it's keeps our society running. How do you argue against this?

  12. Mate, what happens if we all instantly stop eating meat wearing wool and drinking milk ? Do you care about the farmers. It's illegal to kill dogs cats and so on but not illegal to kill chickens pigs etc there your moral justification

  13. I would like to speak with someone out there who can change my mind about eating animals because I believe that it is fine. I eat meat twice a day or sometimes more than that, I wear fur and leather, I eat eggs, and drink milk. I hunt, trap, fish, and I raise chickens, ducks, and geese and I have no problem with any of it but people tell me that it's immoral, however they don't give me any reasons. I would like any reasonable justification

  14. You're kind of straw-manning a meat eater's arguments. Furthermore, you can't just apply the consumption of a cow to the consumption of a dog. That's the fallacy of proof by example. For instance, dogs are artificially selected to be pets. Cows are artificially selected for their meat.

  15. I just had an amazing chat with a good friend from grade school who reached out to me with questions about veganism. She said my posts have made her consider it, and then we talked all about her doubts in the logistics of the movement and she said she's going vegan for sure! Thank you for helping me get to this point! I finally am able to help people understand why we should all be vegan and I can't wait to start talking to more people about it!

  16. we now in Australia allow homosexual marriage AND FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION AND RELIGIOUS FREEDOM
    SO IF FEW WANT TO EAT MEAT THEN THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO
    I personally didn't vote nor is it Christians job to tell state what to do
    so why is VEGANISM using these obscure religious practices used to justify VEGANISM EXTREMISM
    EXTREMISM VS EXTREMISM
    HONEY IS EVIL
    BUTTER IS EVIL
    MILK IS EVIL
    LEATHER SHOES ARE EVIL

    CULTURE IS THE EXACT ARGUMENT CHURCH LEADERS SAY ITS JUSTIFIED TO ALLOW HOMOSEXUAL PASTORS
    AND WOMEN PRIESTS SO THIS DEBATE TRANSLATES THROUGH ALL SOCIETY and will so more
    apostle Paul wrote on this in his heart felt words to Timothy the church was formed and its 1st battles where surrounding cultures

    WHAT ARE YOU SAYING ED
    your culture less PURE ????

  17. These videos are great, however I'm not sure that your examples here, that are particular to local communities, are a good comparison with animal product consumption, which is a part of everyday life globally and not necessarily considered as cultural or traditional. I'm not disagreeing with the point, I just think that many people wouldn't buy this argument.

  18. I have a point to make. Masturbation is to support wasting semen. The semen DIE. That’s terrible. If you support masturbation, then you support sex and adultery. That’s my position on eating meat.

  19. A real issue I was just talking about with a friend I want the Vegan community to seriously address:
    Some cultures (such as the Dinka in South Sudan) aren't just emotionally tied to meat as much as they are financially tied to it. Dinka are pastoralists and they rely on cattle as a form of wealth. The moral imperative to go vegan is diminished in these parts as their wealth is tied to the cattle. Much of the world is like that and people need to be driven out of abject poverty before we as a human species can be morally bound to go vegan.
    Most of these people I mention are mostly plant based as eating rice, legumes and fruits is cheap and meat is expensive and we need to really drive it in people that cheap meat is a luxury of being in a country with a high standard of living. The average person in South Sudan's GDP (nominal) is $275 which is literally not enough to buy the average cow/steer here in the US let alone maintain it.
    The nominal GDP of South Sudan is $3.6 billion ($20 billion PPP). The value of assets for Tyson Foods is $23 billion. This alone should tell us something about the power the animal agriculture industry has on us.
    We should acknowledge that many cultures have meat based dishes in their culture but their cultural identity isn't tied to eating meat. In the US there is literally a culture of meat eating and that is fucking disgusting. I know this is also true in Argentina and Brazil too, but it's literally killing us so they should be forced to stop if humans get their act together.

  20. it was also tradititional to eat humans, dogs, rats… cruel and brutal traditions need to stop – now.

  21. Doing something just bc everyone else is doing it makes you nothing other than a mindless minion. Have common sense. Know the difference between right and wrong. Do what is right even when it's unpopular.

  22. Where do I live seriously. My dad was okay with me going vegan only if the doctor at the hospital said it's healthy. Well she said ''there's a lack of protein in vegetarian and vegan diet so it's not applicable'' Why are swedish doctors so DUMB. help 🙁

  23. We have a large aboriginal presence in Canada (both inuit and plains). My roadblocks here are largely from their unwillingness to change their 'traditions', and their rightful use of the land. They are constantly fighting against food dessert that are forced upon them, because access to affordable food is not available in the areas they are left to live in, from the government. They are constantly fighting over land and resourse rights, including 'fishing'. Fighting over gentrification and oil pipelines/fracking. The bear hunts were finally banned, and the farmed fishing has exposes, but the natives will not give up their meat diet. How can I help them get access to better food, or switch their view, so they can demand it for themselves. It's systemic racism.

  24. "Viewed quantitatively, the extent of genital tissue destruction in the overwhelming majority of ritually mutilated women far exceeds the damage found in male circumcision. On a qualitative level, however, we are dealing with one and the same thing"

    Hanny Lightfoot-Klein,
    Authour of: Prisoners of Ritual: An Odyssey into Female Genital Mutilation In Africa (1989)

  25. Killing animals for food or sport is inherently cruel as is genital mutilation of children. Cultural blinders and cognitive dissonance keeps us from seeing the obvious. Female genital mutilation is a traditional cultural practice that we in the so-called western world are aware of and reviled by, but cutting of boys is one that slips by often un criticized because of our blindness and willing to accept that boys and men are seen as more expendable than girls and women. Thank you Ed, this is an interesting series of videos, very helpful.

  26. "BOYS AND GIRLS ALIKE. An unconsenting child, an unnecessary, invasive surgery: is there any moral difference between male and female circumcision?" ~Brian Earp, a scientist and ethicist. He holds degrees from Yale, Oxford, and Cambridge universities and is an advocate for children’s rights.

    "I study childhood genital surgeries. Female, male and intersex genital surgeries, specifically, and I make similar arguments about each one. As a general rule, I think that healthy children – whatever their sex or gender – should be free from having parts of their most intimate sexual organs removed before they can understand what’s at stake in such a procedure. There are a number of reasons I’ve come to hold this view, but in some ways it’s pretty simple. ‘Private parts’ are private. They’re personal. Barring some serious disease to treat or physical malfunction to address (for which surgery is the most conservative option), they should probably be left alone.

    "In the 1990s, when the Canadian ethicist Margaret Somerville began to speak and write critically about the non-therapeutic circumcision of infant boys, she was attacked for even addressing the subject in public. In her book The Ethical Canary, she says her critics accused her of ‘detracting from the horror of female genital mutilation and weakening the case against it by speaking about it and infant male circumcision in the same context and pointing out that the same ethical and legal principles applied to both’.

    "She wasn’t alone. The anthropologist Kirsten Bell has advanced similar arguments in her university lectures, provoking a reaction that was ‘immediate and hostile … How dare I mention these two entirely different operations in the same breath! How dare I compare the innocuous and beneficial removal of the foreskin with the extreme mutilations enacted against females in other societies!’

    "There’s a problem with these claims. Almost every one of them is untrue or severely misleading

    https://aeon.co/essays/are-male-and-female-circumcision-morally-equivalent

    "Every parent who requests a genital-altering surgery for their child – for whatever reason under the sun – thinks that they are acting in the child’s best interests

    "In the US context, male circumcision was adopted by the medical community in the late 1800s in an effort to combat masturbation, among other dubious reasons. It has since persisted as a rationalised habit, long past the time when it was effectively abandoned by other developed nations. Of course, it is probably true that most contemporary Western parents who choose circumcision for their sons do not do so out of a desire to ‘control’ their sexuality, but this is also true of most African parents who choose ‘circumcision’ for their daughters. As the renowned anti-FGM activist Hanny Lightfoot-Klein has stated: ‘The [main] reasons given for female circumcision in Africa and for routine male circumcision in the United States are essentially the same. Both promise cleanliness and the absence of odours as well as greater attractiveness and acceptability.’

    "Given that both male and female forms of genital cutting express different cultural norms depending upon the context, and are performed for different reasons in different cultures, and even in different communities or individual families, how shall we assess the permissibility of either? Do we need to interview each set of parents to make sure that their proposed act of cutting is intended as an expression of acceptable norms? If they promise that it isn’t about ‘sexual control’ in their specific case, but rather about ‘hygiene’ or ‘aesthetics’ or something less symbolically problematic, should they be permitted to go ahead?

    "But this is bound to fail. Every parent who requests a genital-altering surgery for their child – for whatever reason under the sun – thinks that they are acting in the child’s best interests; no one thinks that they are ‘mutilating’ their own offspring (whether female or male). So it is not the reason for the intervention that determines its permissibility, but rather the consequences of the intervention for the person whose genitals are actually on the line.

    "As the social anthropologist Sara Johnsdotter has pointed out, there is no one-to-one relationship between the amount of genital tissue removed (in males, females, or indeed in intersex people), and either subjective satisfaction while having sex, or a feeling of having been personally harmed because one’s ‘private parts’ were altered before one could effectively resist. Medically unnecessary genital surgeries – of whatever degree of severity – will affect different people differently. This is because each individual’s relationship to their own body is unique, including what they find aesthetically appealing, what degree of risk they feel comfortable taking on when it comes to elective surgeries on their reproductive organs, and even what degree of sexual sensitivity they prefer (for personal or cultural reasons). That’s why ethicists are beginning to argue that individuals should be left to decide what to do with their own genitals when it comes to irreversible surgery, whatever their sex or gender." https://aeon.co/essays/are-male-and-female-circumcision-morally-equivalent

  27. If someone says that eating animals is cultural , therefore right thing to do ,it means that know NOTHINGS at all and need serious adulation.
    Slavery used to be cultural, Hannibalism was cultural, crusading and burning Jews in crematorium alive was a part of culture and dogma as well.
    Cultural means that bunch of selfish people agreed to do something and believed that it's good for them .

  28. Ed! You should do a video on "vegan looks down on meat eaters", that we are aggressive and rude.. I think it has more to do with the meat eater taking offence or the vegan in question not having great discussion tactics haha

  29. We have been eating meat not for hundreds of years, Ed, it is hundreds of thousands of years, or as long as humans have existed. We evolved as omnivores. If you choose to be a vegan, that is absolutely fine. Your choice. The more vegans the better as we need to limit grain going into livestock production for environmental reasons. But imposing your will, your 'morality', on the human species because you are convinced of your own cleverness and moral righteousness is both distopian, creepy and manipulative. As long as you don't hurt humans, your ideology is LESS harmful than religious extremists, but it isn't harmless. We humans, including you Ed, have sacred lives. To diminish our value by equating us with animals is immoral by my code.

  30. Tradition is nothing more than circular logic: "We should keep doing this because we've always done it."
    What if the person who started the tradition made a mistake?
    People have been known to make mistakes.
    What if the conditions that made the establishment of a tradition make sense at the time no longer exist?
    Conditions have been known to change.

  31. I am really impressed how vegans blame and judge meat eaters for eating animals but do not judge other animals eating meat as well, hunting and killing other animals..It's just adorable 😑

  32. You should do a video on Thanksgiving and just how to deal with family and cultural pressures and any tips you have during large family gathering involving meat.

  33. 1.There are no arguments against veganism, only excuses. 2. There is no excuse for animal abuse. 3. There's no right way to do the wrong thing. 4. Unecessary murder is never ethical. (Embrace veganism)

  34. Is it cultural and traditional to confine dozens, or hundreds of animals to a small living space for the entirety of its days, then decide it's time to hang it from it's feet, cut it's throat and bleed it out? yea naw, we shouldn't try to make things better, because slavery and violence is part of our past, lets stick with it. Go watch a video of this happening, they exist, and watch the animals face as someone is murdering it. Tell me this is ok. I know modern society breeds sociopathic characteristics into mainstream ideals, but if you can see that kind of fear, and pain and feel nothing, then try to justify it by saying it's just part of our history and culture, I'm not sure I can help you.

  35. I have never seen you respond to videos before, but I have one that you could respond to where the person in question is not against veganism, but utterly incapable of seeing his lack of logic:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rZpdYFo5SZ4&t=1121s

    Thanks!

  36. You can find horse sausages in most stores in Sweden, yet a couple of years ago there was a scandal throughout the country because IKEA meatballs had horse and cow flesh mixed but didn't market it as such. The hypocrisy! Even before going vegan I never understood people who valued some life over others or found it more gross to eat frogs or rats – they are all animal flesh, period! I'm happy now that I've come to my senses and realized the damage we are causing the planet, ourselves but primarily the animals with our gross demand! Go vegan!!

  37. Ed always think in terms of morals, always. And his channel is mainly about morals and ethics. I had seen that a ton on a lot of his arguments. But it sure does mean something.

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